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Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 Planar: Reader Question on Field Curvature (and field curvature in general)

Nicholas W writes:

I appreciate very much the work you are doing on testing the NEX system, given the increasing lens opportunities and the quality of Sony sensors its future is promising.

Let me just suggest you to include some test on subjects that lay on the same focal plane (could that be also at near infinity, as you did with tile rooftops?). The bike, dolls and cabin have great details to look at, but as your last test on Touit vs Sony showed, provide a very uneven focal plane that makes corners very difficult to judge.

To give you an example, I would like to find out how much quality (if any) increase I would get from a 32mm Touit or Sony compared to my actual setup (SpeedBooster + canon 50 1.8). My guess is little both at 1.8 and 5.6 (if I do not consider very extreme portions of corners) but from your tests is very difficult to tell, mainly due to uneven focal planes of your subjects.

One last question, which software do you use, and which settings, in order to get the sharpening seen on your last tests?

DIGLLOYD: As for sharpening, my approaches involve both Adobe Camera Raw and Topaz InFocus, documented in the Workflow section of DAP.

I hope to make some careful studies at a distance soon.

Of the twenty or so 50mm (equiv) lenses I have tested, all but one has field curvature at distance— even what one would hope to be flat field lenses like the Zeiss 50mm f/2 Makro-Planar (corners)*. The solution: shoot at ƒ/5.6 or ƒ/8 for geometrically planar scenes (such as an infinity scene).

The Leica 50mm f/2 APO-Summicron-M is the best corrected 50mm lens I have yet seen (on all counts), though it might have a trace of field curvature judging by the MTF chart at ƒ/2 and ƒ/2.8. Its sibling Summilux has considerable field curvature.

A flat field lens (no field curvature) is rather the exception, especially at 50mm and wider focal lengths. It is not easy to correct field curvature for apertures faster than ƒ/2, and even at ƒ/2 it requires considerable optical effort. All optical designs trade off some benefit for others.

That said, the correction for field curvature is given far too low a priority in optical design, and is second only to focus shift as a imaging “gotcha”. I prefer lenses that are dead-on predictable in every scenario; field curvature undermines that in spades. Hence I would prefer a highly corrected flat-field ƒ/2.8 lens over an ƒ/1.8 or ƒ/2 lens. This is what Sigma has done with the 30mm (45mm equiv) lens on the Sigma DP2 Merrill, and it is a wonderful thing.

* Field curvature is a curved zone of focus, e.g., the nominal plane of focus is actually curved or wavy. It should not be confused with optical distortion, a warping of the proportions of the subject (straight lines do not remain straight). Nor should optical distortion be confused with perspective, which is purely a camera to subject distance issue not involving optics at all, and obeying the inverse square law. See also the size invariance principle.

Below, an example of a geometrically planar subject with two planes: the foreground railing and the distant background. Few 50mm (equiv) lenses can image this scene with full sharpness across the field on high-res digital until ƒ/5.6 or even ƒ/8. A tiny change in focus can “optimize” the placement of focus for such scenes against the specific field curvature, which also means that comparing lenses fairly on such scene is fraught with risk of erroneous conclusions by very small changes in focus—very hard to do fairly, there are no “quick tests” in spite of the apparent ease of the scene.

For more on this and other topics, see Making Sharp Images.

   Sony NEX-7 + Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 @ ƒ/2   
Sony NEX-7 + Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 @ ƒ/6.3

Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 Planar: Aperture Series At Close Range (Sunflowers, Sony NEX-7)

The Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 Planar is not a macro lens, but at close range it delivers pleasing results with high sharpnss.

Presented in my review of the Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 Planar is an aperture series from ƒ/2 - ƒ/11, with large crops also. This study is mainly about bokeh.

Also added are some other sunflower examples.

Image below in the ProPhotoRGB color space, requires colorspace-aware web browser for correct display.

   Sony NEX-7 + Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 @ ƒ/2   
Sony NEX-7 + Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 @ ƒ/2

Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 Planar: Aperture Series (Sunflowers, Sony NEX-7)

The Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 Planar is not a macro lens, but it offers a pleasing combination of color, contrast and bokeh that make for satisfying close range shooting possibilities.

Presented in my review of the Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 Planar is an aperture series from ƒ/2.8 - ƒ/11, with large crops also.

Image below in the ProPhotoRGB color space, requires colorspace-aware web browser for correct display.

   Sony NEX-7 + Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 @ ƒ/5.6   
Sony NEX-7 + Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 @ ƒ/5.6

Compared: Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 Planar vs Sony 35mm f/1.8 OSS on Sony NEX-7

I take a first look at how the Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 Planar compares to the Sony 35mm f/1.8 OSS on the Sony NEX-7, including my impressions of focusing both lenses, where there is a compelling difference.

   Sony NEX-7 + Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 @ ƒ/5.6   
Sony NEX-7 + Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 @ ƒ/5.6

Sony NEX-7: Unstable Controls

I previously detailed how the NEX-7 can undermine one’s work.

In NYC, the Sony NEX-7 repeatedly found itself on Auto ISO. Again and again.

Today over the course of a 30-minute sunflower shoot on a tripod, the NEX-7 managed to change itself to Auto ISO three times, degrading several series of images by using ISO 500 to 1000. Well, actually they were quite good for those high ISO values. But I didn’t want ISO 1000, I wanted ISO 100.

Along with all its other design problems (buttons and dials, insane menu system, exposure bugs, etc), this camera confirms my judgment of 16 months ago which I had subsequently second-guessed. Now I am certain that my initial impression was spot-on: it’s a design for a toy mated to a sensor and lens, designed by engineers who have no inkling of the core set of features actually necessary for a reliable tool. That’s fine for a $200 point and shoot, but it is not fine for a ~$1000 offering. Design by checklist is not a design; it is anti-design.

The sensor is superb and one can make very high quality images with it, but being surprised by the controls gets old. As in “if I throw it 50 feet up, will it provide a satisfying burst of little plastic parts when it hits?”. When I compare the errors I see on the NEX-7 to those on the Sigma DP Merrill cameras, it’s night and day: the DP Merrills have their own limitations, but they always do exactly what I expect them to do.

All of which leads me to the general problem with today’s camera designs: kitchen-sink checklist design, ill-considered menu insanity, no ability to really customize the experience (e.g., hide all video JPEG settings), lousy controls and haptics, visual impediments (e.g., no EVF), confounding lens compromises (focus shift and field curvature), focusing systems that often miss, etc. Sadly, it’s a question of fewest issues, not of excellence.

Moving on...

This sunflower image proved extremely challenging to deal with: sunflowers deliver a nearly black recording in the blue channel and are very “hot” in the red channel.

Furthermore, most camera histograms show the bright yellow petals as blown-out when in fact another entire stop of exposure is appropriate (an unfortunate and fairly common reality proven by examining the NEX-7 raw file with RawDigger).

The camera did reasonably well here, but the black centers in these particular sunflowers are quite dark, adding to the contrast difficulties (even to the naked eye!). The way the camera sees these sunflowers is apparently rather different from the non-linear way human eyes see them, particularly the bright yellow. The NEX-7 sensor has done a very good job here, a testament to its quality, with the Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 Planar delivering a very pleasing rendition at ƒ/2.8.

A larger version of this image is found on the Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 examples page.

Presented in the ProPhotoRGB color space, cannot be properly displayed in the sRGB or AdobeRGB color spaces. Use a calibrated wide-gamut display to view properly.

   Sony NEX-7 + Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 @ ƒ/2.8   
Sony NEX-7 + Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 @ ƒ/2.8

Sony NEX-7: Damaging Contrast Bug

In Guide to Mirrorless, I document a damaging contrast bug with the Sony NEX-7 that came and went while shooting a comparison. The bug is independent of lens and aperture and occurs with the latest firmware. Included are RawDigger histograms to show that the bug is independent of raw converter.

This bug explains several series of severely low contrast images I made in NYC recently. These really surprised me, but I rationalized away the problem as due to shooting through window glass, even though other shots were fine. Now I believe that the window glass explanation was not involved and this was purely a camera bug.

Nasty stuff and one more reason I will wait for a new model (NEX-7N or whatever it will be called). See also my longer term perspective on the Sony NEX-7.

   Sony NEX-7  
Sony NEX-7

Sony NEX-7: Longer Term Perspective

I summarize my current perspective on the 24-megapixel Sony NEX-7.

The current price of the NEX-7 is favorable, and it has a great sensor, but its physical design (buttons and dials) and other behavior give me pause. I hope for an improved version later this year.

   Sony NEX-7  
Sony NEX-7

Autofocus with Sony NEX-7

Jeff K writes:

I'm reading your posts about the Touit lenses with a lot of interest. Thanks for doing such an awesome job posting photos. You've for sure got the best NEX 7 plus Touit photos on the web at this time. I've got my 32/1.8 on order.

I'm noticing that you keep complaining about the autofocus accuracy of the NEX 7 and I'm wondering why you are using AF with totally stationary subjects when you've got one of the best manual focus machines ever made in your hand.

The EVF with magnified view and focus peaking is much more accurate than AF with any Nikon or Pentax DSLR I've ever had and one of the things I love about the NEX is being able to nail focus 90% + using the magnified view and focus peaking. Since you use Zeiss lenses on Canon and Nikon DSLRs, you're obviously used to MF, so try using it more with the NEX and I think you'll be very pleased.

PS - when taking photos of people, AF with Face Detection mode on my NEX 7 (I'm using my Sony 35/1.8 and 50/1.8) is fantastic.

DIGLLOYD: Over the years, I’ve written so extensively about how much I like an EVF and how critical focus accuracy is.

I was in NYC for less than 48 hour from stepping off the plane and getting back onto it, and that includes sleep and the Zeiss Touit press event. I had very little time for ad-hoc shooting, no contemplative time to be sure. I needed to work fast and produce some decent images in a short time. Complicating matters, my kids gave me a nice 'bug' yielding a nasty sore throat the first night and I was not operating at 100%.

And so the reasons are simple:

  • I had zero experience with NEX-7 autofocus until I arrived in NYC, so I made the assumption that it ought to perform well under these easy-as-pie scenarios. Which was a bad assumption. I normally would not make such an assumption, but time pressure suckered me into it.
  • When there are 15 minutes of really good light in the evening, one shoots fast if it’s the last good light of a short trip. Hence I used autofocus; I had not even had time to review the prior images to realize how prone to error the NEX-7 autofocus is: so many shots were degraded by backfocus. The partial saving grace is that a somewhat stopped-down lens on APS-C has more DoF than full-frame.

The NEX-7 sensor quality is fabulous, but at this point, I consider autofocus on the NEX-7 useless for any critical work (frequent backfocus), at least with high performance lenses where even small errors are manifest even at ƒ/5.6. I look forward to seeing a future 24MP or perhaps 32MP NEX with improved autofocus.

In short, I would take Jeff K’s question and extend it this way: for professional work (reliable and consistent results), the Sony NEX-7 is best used as a manual focus camera with magnified view in the EVF.

As far as face detection: I don’t want the face in focus, I want the eyes in focus. The eye of my choosing, as often it is one or the other, even at ƒ/5.6. I put that focusing spot right on one eye (many times), and the NEX-7 screwed that up (many times). So I see little reason to believe (without testing) that it can perform better with face detection: will I get sharp lips, nose, eyes, what?

Below, I wanted the leading eye in focus. The NEX-7 backfocused by an inch or so. It’s just adequately sharp, but not sharp where I wanted it: the leading eye is slightly blurred, and this is at ƒ/5.6! What would face detection have done here? Maybe it has some magic, worth a try I suppose, but when I put a specific AF point on an eye, I should get razor sharp focus, as with the Sigma DP Merrill spot focus sensor. The NEX-7 just cannot do that. And EVF zoom is problematic with non-static subjects and having to reframe after focusing.

   Sony NEX-7 + Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 Planar @ ƒ/5.6   
Sony NEX-7 + Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 Planar @ ƒ/5.6

Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 Planar:
Evening on the High Line in NYC

In Guide to Mirrorless are additional examples in New York City with the Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 Planar on the Sony NEX-7, this set taken in the evening while walking the High Line in the former meatpacking district.

Retina grade images as usual.

   View from the High Line, NYC Sony NEX-7 + Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 Planar     
View from the High Line, NYC
Sony NEX-7 + Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 Planar
   Apartment Building Fire Escapes at Sunset, NYC Sony NEX-7 + Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 Planar   
Apartment Building Fire Escapes at Sunset, NYC
Sony NEX-7 + Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 Planar
   Street art as seen from the High Line walkway, NYC Sony NEX-7 + Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 Planar   
Street art as seen from the High Line walkway, NYC
Sony NEX-7 + Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 Planar
   Empire State Building Sony NEX-7 + Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 Planar     
Empire State Building
Sony NEX-7 + Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 Planar

Zeiss Touit 12mm f/2.8 Distagon: Examples, Evening Architecture

In Guide to Mirrorless are additional examples in New York City with the Zeiss Touit 12mm f/2.8 Distagon on the Sony NEX-7, this set taken in the evening.

   Sony NEX-7 + Zeiss Touit 12mm f/2.8 Distagon   
Sony NEX-7 + Zeiss Touit 12mm f/2.8 Distagon

Tioga Pass in Yosemite Is Open

Tioga Pass is my route through Yosemite to the high country of Yosemite as well as the White Mountains and Death Valley.

I expect to visit Yosemite in the next 2-3 weeks. Please contact me if you are interested in one-on-one photo tour.

Dana Meadow at Tioga Pass, Yosemite, Oct 28 2007
Dana Meadow at Tioga Pass, Yosemite, Oct 28 2007
Spring runoff, June 23 2009
Spring runoff, June 23 2009

Eastern Sierra weather

Traveling to the Eastern Sierra? Check out reader Dennis Mattinson’s Eastern Sierra Weather Center.

Dennis Mattinson’s Eastern Sierra Weather Center
Eastern Sierra Weather Reports, by Dennis Mattinson

Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 Planar: MTF and Distortion and Vignetting Charts (for Sony NEX + Fuji X)

In Guide to Mirrorless are added MTF charts for the Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 Planar and also distortion graphs for the Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 Planar on Sony NEX and Fuji X. Also vignetting on Sony NEX and Fuji X.

The MTF pages include a comparison on the relative MTF performance versus the Zeiss ZF.2 50mm f/2 Makro-Planar and Leica 50mm Summicron-M.

   Sony NEX-7 + Zeiss Touit 12mm f/2.8 Distagon   

Zeiss Touit 12mm f/2.8 Distagon: MTF and Distortion and Vignetting Charts (for Sony NEX + Fuji X)

In Guide to Mirrorless are added MTF charts for the Zeiss Touit 12mm f/2.8 Distagon and also distortion graphs for the Zeiss Touit 12mm f/2.8 Distagon on Sony NEX and Fuji X.

Both pages include commentary, and the MTF pages include notes on the relative performance to the Zeiss 18mm f/3.5 Distagon and Leica 18mm f/3.8 Super-Elmar-M ASPH.

   Sony NEX-7 + Zeiss Touit 12mm f/2.8 Distagon   

Zeiss Touit 12mm f/2.8 Distagon: Examples in New York City, Part 2

In Guide to Mirrorless are additional examples in New York City with the Zeiss Touit 12mm f/2.8 Distagon on the Sony NEX-7, this set taken on a morning walk from the meat-packing district to Union Square.

   Sony NEX-7 + Zeiss Touit 12mm f/2.8 Distagon   
Sony NEX-7 + Zeiss Touit 12mm f/2.8 Distagon

Zeiss Touit 12mm f/2.8 Distagon: Examples in New York City, Part 1

In Guide to Mirrorless, I’ve published a wide variety of examples in New York City with the Zeiss Touit 12mm f/2.8 Distagon on the Sony NEX-7.

Many Retina-grade examples are shown, most with both color and black and white renditions (the Touit 12/2.8 makes an exceptional lens for black and white conversions).

   Sony NEX-7 + Zeiss Touit 12mm f/2.8 Distagon   
Sony NEX-7 + Zeiss Touit 12mm f/2.8 Distagon

Zeiss 135mm f/2 APO-Sonnar at Night

The Zeiss 135mm f/2 APO-Sonnar has tremendous penetrating power. With its high contrast wide open and superb control of color errors, it makes an exceptional lens for night-time photography.

A larger version of this image has been added to my Outdoors Examples page.

   Sony NEX-7 + Zeiss Touit 12mm f/2.8 Distagon   
Empire State Building from the High Line walkway
Nikon D800E + Zeiss 135mm f/2 APO-Sonnar

Zeiss Touit 12mm f/2.8 Distagon: Portraiture with an Ultra Wide Angle

Can a 12mm lens (18mm equivalent on full frame) be used successfully for portraiture? I made the attempt and achieved some results that I like.

In the review of the Zeiss Touit 12mm f/2.8 Distagon are portraits in New York City.

Nine Retina-grade examples are shown, each with both color and black and white renditions. The Touit 12/2.8 makes an exceptional lens for black and white conversions.

To my eye, the Zeiss Touit 12mm f/2.8 might be the best-performing 18mm (equiv) lens that I have yet seen, offering an impressive combination of sharpness, contrast, bokeh, and color correction.

And so I will say this: if you’re a Sony NEX shooter, this is a must have lens for wide angle work. Presumably the same applies to Fuji X, but I have not yet tested on the Fuji X-Pro1 or X-E1.

Get the Touit lenses at B&H Photo.

   Sony NEX-7 + Zeiss Touit 12mm f/2.8 Distagon   
Sony NEX-7 + Zeiss Touit 12mm f/2.8 Distagon
   Sony NEX-7 + Zeiss Touit 12mm f/2.8 Distagon   
Sony NEX-7 + Zeiss Touit 12mm f/2.8 Distagon

Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 Planar: Portraiture in NYC

In the review of the Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 Planar are portraits in New York City.

Seven Retina-grade examples are shown, most with both color and black and white renditions.

I came away very impressed with the Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 Planar. This is a wonderfully balanced lens (in the sense of its drawing style, sharpness, bokeh, etc).

Get the Touit lenses at B&H Photo.

   Beer glasses ƒ/2.8 @ 1/30 sec handheld, ISO 200, 0.65 push Sony NEX-7 + Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 Planar     
Sony NEX-7 + Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 Planar
   Beer glasses ƒ/2.8 @ 1/30 sec handheld, ISO 200, 0.65 push Sony NEX-7 + Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 Planar     
Sony NEX-7 + Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 Planar

Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 Planar: Bokeh (Glassware)

In the review of the Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 Planar is an detailed evaluation of bokeh with the Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 Planar on the Sony NEX-7.

Five examples are shown, each with retina-grade images and crops, along with commentary. Much more is coming on both the Touit 32mm f/1.8 and 12mm f/2.8.

These examples leave little doubt as to the professional grade image rendition now available to those looking to shoot a smaller camera system. In my estimation, the two new Zeiss Touit lenses make the Sony NEX and Fuji X platforms much more attractive. Now having an extensive set of field images, I am comfortable saying that these two lenses would be my first choices on either Sony NEX and Fuji X; if anything they outperform comparable Zeiss lenses on full-frame DSLRs (Zeiss ZF.2/ZE 50/1.4 Planar and 18/3.5 Distagon). Which is what one would hope for in a modern design for a smaller sensor size.

The Touit lenses are high grade and ready for a pro-grade NEX or Fuji X platform. But as it stands, the camera body “gotchas” with NEX-7 are troublesome, as I found out in NYC, and this means more than irritation, it meant unexpected failures. Yet all it would take is some mild effort in firmware to fix at least some of them ( the NEX-6 fixes a few issues, but I wanted 24 megapixles, not 16). It is my uneasy feeling that both Sony nor Fuji have only a dim inkling of the needs of real photographers (ergonomics, elimination of arbitrary behavioral quirks, kitchen sink designs, hideously arranged menus systems). Let us hope that both vendors start taking serious input from photographers looking for reliable tools free of toylike design warts.

Get the Touit lenses at B&H Photo.

   Beer glasses ƒ/2.8 @ 1/30 sec handheld, ISO 200, 0.65 push Sony NEX-7 + Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 Planar     
Beer glasses
ƒ/2.8 @ 1/30 sec handheld, ISO 200, 0.65 push
Sony NEX-7 + Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 Planar

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